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On July 30, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and representatives from the United Transportation Union and railroad management, including Stephen Ailes, John P. ("Jack") Hiltz, Charles Luna, George P. Shultz, James D. Hodgson, John A. Volpe, Gen. George A. Lincoln, Willie J. Usery, Jr., Arnold R. Weber, Paul W. McCracken, and Ronald L. Ziegler, met in the Cabinet Room of the White House at an unknown time between 9:37 am and 10:23 am. The Cabinet Room taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 067-001 of the White House Tapes.